D3 and mvBase

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  • 1.  using vMotion on a running D3 VM

    PARTNER
    Posted 19 days ago

    Can  anyone advise if it is safe to use vMotion on a VM with a running instance of D3 and, if so, what state does D3 need to be in e.g. no users, no instrument interfaces ?



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    Les Reed
    Application Specialist
    LRS Health Pty Ltd
    Heidelberg VIC AU
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  • 2.  RE: using vMotion on a running D3 VM

    ROCKETEER
    Posted 19 days ago

    vMotion is used to migrate a VM? I don't understand it that well, but my gut tells me that D3 should be shut down while the VM is "in motion". If you have a D3 test system somewhere, log on a user, run a test program that loops and does something, like update the SQLDEMO,CUSTOMERS, file, then use vMotion to move it, see if it survives.



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    Brian S. Cram
    Principal Technical Support Engineer
    Rocket Software
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  • 3.  RE: using vMotion on a running D3 VM

    Posted 18 days ago

    On a properly setup machine in a virtual environment VMotion is totally safe and will keep all connections and systems running on transfer to a new host.    We have never had any issues with VMotion on running machines.



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    craig curtis
    System Programmer
    Sevier Valley School District
    Richfield UT US
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  • 4.  RE: using vMotion on a running D3 VM

    ROCKETEER
    Posted 18 days ago

    Hey, Craig, do you ever move the D3 server while it's running?



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    Brian S. Cram
    Principal Technical Support Engineer
    Rocket Software
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  • 5.  RE: using vMotion on a running D3 VM

    Posted 18 days ago

    to answer Brian's question, Yes.  We have moved d3 in running state in order to balance the hosts or if a host needs upgrades we move.   On the other note, I do not trust VMware to care for all the DRS and HR.  We have it set in partially automation in that it will suggest but not actually move machines.   With DRS you could lose memory if you lost the host.  If the host failed then DRS would pick up and restart the system on another host.  While this is a form VMotion it would lose the memory since the machine is on a down host.  In all my testing you will lose maybe one packet while the network reroutes the traffic.  As far as memory, the magic moves everything in some magic way to the new host.  I have moved both d3 and sql servers without any issues.



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    craig curtis
    System Programmer
    Sevier Valley School District
    Richfield UT US
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  • 6.  RE: using vMotion on a running D3 VM

    Posted 18 days ago

    We use VMWare as well and although I wasn't 'told' that it should not be done, I inherited the idea that for what D3 keeps in RAM - is the issue in a vMotion process.  We definitely use vMotion if we shutdown D3 and move it to another host, but we have vMotion turned off for automatic failure moves.

    I am also interested in what a real-time test would show.

    --Tom



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    Thomas Iwanowicz
    Coder
    Daily Express Inc
    Carlisle PA US
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