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  • 1.  Can anyone help me visualize a web page using Accuterm?

    Posted 7 days ago

    I am new to accuterm, about a year now, and am still struggling with trying to understand the pieces I need in place to have a graphical accuterm screen display on the internet. I've been told repeatedly that its possible and functioning with my release of accuterm8. Can anyone share with me even a static screen accuterm display on the web? Even just a box that says 'You are here.'

    There are obviously pieces I need for the web address to access my accuterm display but I don't even know what questions to ask....

    Anyone?



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    Kathleen Hambrick
    Programmer at Colwell
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  • 2.  RE: Can anyone help me visualize a web page using Accuterm?

    Posted 6 days ago

    I have made similar requests without receiving a usable answer. Good luck.



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    Kevin Hond
    Mr.
    Self Registered
    Kingsport TN US
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  • 3.  RE: Can anyone help me visualize a web page using Accuterm?

    Posted 5 days ago

    Let's start by saying that I haven't used AccuTerm web (but we do use AT GUI). However, I have gained some "impressions" of what is required.

    Start with the AccuTerm FAQ: https://www.zumasys.com/products/accuterm/support/faqs/

    There is a section there on AT Web. I think from reading this, that:

    1.  You need to install some server components on your system
    2.  You need to define users (and perhaps some other stuff) within the Zumasys Customer Portal (it is still called this, but I assume it is now part of Rocket)
    3.  Users need to connect to www.accuterm.io for authorisation (based on the information you set up in the Portal). Authorised users then get re-directed to your web server.

    According to the FAQ, AT Web does not (yet) provide access to AT GUI programs. But that may have changed.  (The AccuTerm pages on the Zumasys website does have a screenshot of AT Web - but that is displaying a character screen).

    Let us know how your exploration goes!

    Brian



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    Brian Speirs
    Senior Analyst - Information Systems
    Self Registered
    Wellington NZ
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  • 4.  RE: Can anyone help me visualize a web page using Accuterm?

    ROCKETEER
    Posted 5 days ago

    Hi Kathleen -

    Rocket is preparing to release an update for the desktop and web version of AccuTerm 8 in the imminent future. The desktop version is a normal Windows application and there is no way to deploy that version on the web. The updated web version that is coming out does support AccuTerm GUI (most features) and works in all modern browsers. We are working very hard on bringing the web version into parity with the desktop version. However, there are some limitations when running in a browser context, mostly due to security enforced by the browser. Things like launching an arbitrary command on the user's PC or reading & writing files from the PC disk are not possible in the web version.

    Thanks, Peter Schellenbach
    Rocket Software



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    Peter Schellenbach
    Rocket Internal - All Brands
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  • 5.  RE: Can anyone help me visualize a web page using Accuterm?

    Posted yesterday

    Hi Peter - 

    So I am hearing that I should wait for the 'imminent' release of accuterm....9? 8.2? That will have a more robust web piece included. Is that correct? ETA? (ballpark)

    Thank you,
    Kathleen



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    Kathleen Hambrick
    Programmer at Colwell
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  • 6.  RE: Can anyone help me visualize a web page using Accuterm?

    Posted yesterday
    Edited by Enrique Murphy yesterday

    Hi Kathleen,

      What are you trying to achieve?. I ask, because, if you are trying to build a web application to show MV data I may have something interesting. I have built a  framework, that would let you create a complete web application to replace MV green screens. But, unlike other tools, you don't need to learn any web language, everything is done using just MV (PICK) BASIC!.
       The framework has many web development challenges solved, as web session and user management, web form builder, web application menu builder, background processing, and internationalization.
      Web applications built with the framework are responsive and installable in every device (desktop, tablet, smarts), and it is built on top of Rocket's MVIS, so it is secure and scalable.
        Regards,
        Enrique Murphy



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    Enrique Ignacio Murphy
    Software Engineer
    Aleator SRL
    Argentina
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  • 7.  RE: Can anyone help me visualize a web page using Accuterm?

    Posted yesterday

    Hi Enrique, thank you for the reply. I am trying to get my accuterm screens available through the web. I was told this should work but can find no one already using it (at least no one whos on this forum that has answered me).

    I'd love to see your creation but am not very web literate, I've always coded in PICK.

    Kathleen



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    Kathleen Hambrick
    Programmer at Colwell
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  • 8.  RE: Can anyone help me visualize a web page using Accuterm?

    Posted yesterday

    Hi Kathleen,

    Are you wanting the internet at large to be able to run your green screen applications or specific customers? If you want anyone on the internet to be able to log on to your application and run it then maybe running them through AccuTerm with their new version's web bridge might be an option. The down side to that is that you're creating a much more complicated infrastructure for connecting. You're also opening your application up to attacks by every hacker in the world.  Even if your chosen web server is up-to-date and secure can you say that about your back end green screen applications?

    Making AccuTerm work on the web is horribly complicated.  Some of the best programmers I know have been working on it for years and it's still not quite ready. The complications come from trying to run on a platform that's constantly being updated/changed/modified. You have to support various browsers and javascript engines.  Even when you get it working that doesn't mean your done. The next release of Chrome or Edge can easily break it. 

    Even if all that is working and stable, you won't have a web application. It won't look or work the same.  It might be better in the long run to use something like Enrique's solution. You could start by coding some of your main functions and then build from there.

    If you're not trying to give access to the entire world, letting customers connect through a VPN using SSH is much simpler and more secure.



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    Joe Goldthwaite
    Consultant
    Phoenix AZ US
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  • 9.  RE: Can anyone help me visualize a web page using Accuterm?

    Posted an hour ago

    Hi Kathleen, 

      "I'd love to see your creation but am not very web literate, I've always coded in PICK"...precisely that is the most interesting part...don't need to be web literate to create a web app with this framework, you code in PICK.

       We may arrange a demo with you and anyone else interested next week.

      Regards,



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    Enrique Ignacio Murphy
    Software Engineer
    Aleator SRL
    Argentina
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  • 10.  RE: Can anyone help me visualize a web page using Accuterm?

    PARTNER
    Posted 3 hours ago

    Fantastic news to here Pete. Really looking forward to seeing the new version :)



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    Richard Olds
    Snr Developer
    Calidore Computer Systems Ltd
    GATESHEAD GB
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