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Currently this is timing out at 60 minutes. Where is this timeout set? Can it be adjusted?

Thanks!



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kathleen hambrick
Programmer
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Currently this is timing out at 60 minutes. Where is this timeout set? Can it be adjusted?

Thanks!



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kathleen hambrick
Programmer
Rocket Forum Shared Account
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Do you mean it timeouts if you just sit in the debugger for 60 minutes doing nothing.

Do you have TIMEOUT set in the LOGIN paragraph, say TIMEOUT 3600



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Jonathan Smith
UniData ATS
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Do you mean it timeouts if you just sit in the debugger for 60 minutes doing nothing.

Do you have TIMEOUT set in the LOGIN paragraph, say TIMEOUT 3600



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Jonathan Smith
UniData ATS
Rocket Support
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Sorry - I wrote UNIDATA DEBUGGER - I really meant UNIDEBUGGER the app. There is no timeout command in our login.



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kathleen hambrick
Programmer
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Sorry - I wrote UNIDATA DEBUGGER - I really meant UNIDEBUGGER the app. There is no timeout command in our login.



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kathleen hambrick
Programmer
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What do you mean by the unidebugger app ?



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Jonathan Smith
UniData ATS
Rocket Support
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What do you mean by the unidebugger app ?



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Jonathan Smith
UniData ATS
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kathleen hambrick
Programmer
Rocket Forum Shared Account
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kathleen hambrick
Programmer
Rocket Forum Shared Account
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Is Unidebugger no longer supported? I just assumed it was a rocket product...



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kathleen hambrick
Programmer
Rocket Forum Shared Account
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Is Unidebugger no longer supported? I just assumed it was a rocket product...



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kathleen hambrick
Programmer
Rocket Forum Shared Account
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Kathleen,

Is this the unidebugger that is part of wIntegrate and/or Dynamic Connect? Please confirm the product (wIntegrate or Dynamic Connect) , the version and also the version of the database if this is the case. 

Regards

JJ



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John Jenkins
Thame, Oxfordshire
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Kathleen,

Is this the unidebugger that is part of wIntegrate and/or Dynamic Connect? Please confirm the product (wIntegrate or Dynamic Connect) , the version and also the version of the database if this is the case. 

Regards

JJ



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John Jenkins
Thame, Oxfordshire
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Hi John - we do use Wintegrate but this was in with the dev toolkit stuff. I does look to be old but is still used at this company. I don't know when or if this product was discontinued. (yes, I know it says IBM - that's just how old it is!)



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kathleen hambrick
Programmer
Rocket Forum Shared Account
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Hi John - we do use Wintegrate but this was in with the dev toolkit stuff. I does look to be old but is still used at this company. I don't know when or if this product was discontinued. (yes, I know it says IBM - that's just how old it is!)



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kathleen hambrick
Programmer
Rocket Forum Shared Account
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Hi Kathleen,

That would make sense in context - unidebugger was discontinued some years ago as announced in International Spectrum, is no longer available, and was replaced by the Basic Developer Toolkit (BDT) which is part of the U2 DBTools suite.

A timeout of one hour probably relates to a TCL inactivity timeout. Please check for TIMEOUT commands in the login paragraph as recommended by Jonathan. I'm not sure what a default might be so if not found you can always add a longer timeout to the account. Please note that unless made conditional it will affect all usage in the account, not just the unidebugger. The login paragraph can  be named any of 'login' or the account name in upper or lower case.  

There may be dependencies on the BDT version and database version if looking at an upgrade of the client tools, and if a very old database version I'd recommend an upgrade a s amatter of course.

  
Regards

JJ



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John Jenkins
Thame, Oxfordshire
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Hi Kathleen,

That would make sense in context - unidebugger was discontinued some years ago as announced in International Spectrum, is no longer available, and was replaced by the Basic Developer Toolkit (BDT) which is part of the U2 DBTools suite.

A timeout of one hour probably relates to a TCL inactivity timeout. Please check for TIMEOUT commands in the login paragraph as recommended by Jonathan. I'm not sure what a default might be so if not found you can always add a longer timeout to the account. Please note that unless made conditional it will affect all usage in the account, not just the unidebugger. The login paragraph can  be named any of 'login' or the account name in upper or lower case.  

There may be dependencies on the BDT version and database version if looking at an upgrade of the client tools, and if a very old database version I'd recommend an upgrade a s amatter of course.

  
Regards

JJ



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John Jenkins
Thame, Oxfordshire
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Hi John - thank you for the info. There is no timeout on our accounts - I am in there all day every day - no timeouts. But its a moot point if this is no longer a viable full screen editor tool. At my last position we used an editer from accuterm - it was nice. Does wintegrate have a full page editor? Are there other options that you know of? Sorry I haven't kept up on tools - life happens ;)



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kathleen hambrick
Programmer
Rocket Forum Shared Account
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Hi John - thank you for the info. There is no timeout on our accounts - I am in there all day every day - no timeouts. But its a moot point if this is no longer a viable full screen editor tool. At my last position we used an editer from accuterm - it was nice. Does wintegrate have a full page editor? Are there other options that you know of? Sorry I haven't kept up on tools - life happens ;)



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kathleen hambrick
Programmer
Rocket Forum Shared Account
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Kathleen,

There are at least two Rocket products that are MV BASIC aware@

  1. Basic Developer Toolkit - part of the U2 DBTools suite - free and can be downloaded from rbc https://rbc.rocketsoftware.com/matrix.asp - just choose U2 DBtools - The O.S does not matter in this case so pick any.
  2. MV BASIC for VSCode (my favourite go-to), Same place as above, just choose the different option.

Hope this helps,

JJ



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John Jenkins
Thame, Oxfordshire
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Hi John - thank you for the info. There is no timeout on our accounts - I am in there all day every day - no timeouts. But its a moot point if this is no longer a viable full screen editor tool. At my last position we used an editer from accuterm - it was nice. Does wintegrate have a full page editor? Are there other options that you know of? Sorry I haven't kept up on tools - life happens ;)



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kathleen hambrick
Programmer
Rocket Forum Shared Account
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It's a bit of an adventure getting everything setup, but for editor options the modern choice would be Microsoft VSCode with the Rocket extension (or MVBasic extension is a little lighter).

Connection options include:

  • Built-in via Uniobjects (I usually can't do this - customers I work with the server is behind a firewall)
  • File sharing via mapped drive
  • SFTP extension with Upload-on-save, Download-on-open (this works best for my workflow)
  • Microsoft has some remote development options, but they require installing things on the server, so I can't use those

I think the Rocket extension has support for debugging with Universe, but not with Unidata.  When that comes to Unidata I'll switch to Uniobjects, maybe via ssh tunnel - very excited to try remote debugging!

If you're not blocked, then using copilot with AI agents becomes possible.  Earlier models did not understand PICK Basic at all, but in recent months they've improved dramatically.  Claude 3.7 or Gemini Pro 2.5 are quite capable and produce ok code that actually compiles :-)

There's a tools community but it doesn't see much action and a lot of Wintegrate discussion.  I'd love to hear what tools other people are using with MV, particularly in the "modern development" area.



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Ian McGowan
Principal Consultant
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