AccuTerm Demo menu failed immediately

Hi My name is Chris Baxter

I am trying to get into AccuTerm after several years elapsed from developing a trial screen in AccuTerm 7 but customer not being ready.

They wish to push forward now. I have downloaded AccuTerm 8 trial and installed the system and Updated the Host Services, also installing the DEMO MENU hoping that I would at least start to gain understanding from that but it failed immediately

I am not feeling too confident at the moment :(

I have uploaded a screen clip as well

I hope someone will respond please

Regards

Chris Baxter

chris@cb-soft.co.uk

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Chris BAXTER
MD
CB Soft
IPSWICH GB
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Hi Chris,

It failed trying to call the AccuTerm GUI initialization subroutine. I would guess that it didn't install correctly or the account you're running the demo in isn't set up.

How are you running the demo?

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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Hi Chris,

It failed trying to call the AccuTerm GUI initialization subroutine. I would guess that it didn't install correctly or the account you're running the demo in isn't set up.

How are you running the demo?

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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Hi Joe,

I created an account called Accuterm, logto to it and then run the Install from the MultiValue Accuterm dropdown, this seemed to go ok

Then I simply ran DEMOMENU when it had stopped

Then snapped the screen and sent it to you 😊

Kind regards
Chris
CB Soft
M: 07841562498

AccuTerm programs are stored in DEMOBP, FTBP, GUIBP, OBJBP and SUIBP. The install program creates them, uploads the programs into them and then compiles and catalogs them. From your error message the GUIBP ATGUINIT2 program was not compiled or cataloged in your account so something went wrong with the install.

You can try re-installing it. You can also manually compile the programs;

BASIC GUIBP *

Then manually cataloging them:

CATALOG GUIBP *

Do this for each of the BP programs above. Then check to see if DEMOMENU will work.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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AccuTerm programs are stored in DEMOBP, FTBP, GUIBP, OBJBP and SUIBP. The install program creates them, uploads the programs into them and then compiles and catalogs them. From your error message the GUIBP ATGUINIT2 program was not compiled or cataloged in your account so something went wrong with the install.

You can try re-installing it. You can also manually compile the programs;

BASIC GUIBP *

Then manually cataloging them:

CATALOG GUIBP *

Do this for each of the BP programs above. Then check to see if DEMOMENU will work.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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Hi

Have done that in GUIBP

ATGUIBEGINMACRO
Warning: Variable CLIENV is never assigned!
Warning: Variable PARAMS is never assigned!
Source file ATGUIBEGINMACRO compiled successfully
ATGUIENDMACRO
Warning: Variable CLIENV is never assigned!
Warning: Variable PARAMS is never assigned!
Source file ATGUIENDMACRO compiled successfully
Were the only comments

In FTBP we had
FTPARAMS
"FTPARAMS", 1 (offset 8) near "buffer":
Source buffer index,250,1,9999999,,,11,11
^
parse error
"FTPARAMS", 62 (offset 8) near "exit":
Prompt exit string(s),,,,,80,80
^
parse error

2 errors were found
** Unable to compile source FTPARAMS **

KMTCFG
[error 1 (18)] "KMTCFG", 10 (offset 1) near "0":
Label lab_0 has already been declared!
[error 2 (18)] "KMTCFG", 12 (offset 1) near "0":
Label lab_0 has already been declared!
[error 3 (18)] "KMTCFG", 13 (offset 1) near "1":
Label lab_1 has already been declared!
[error 4 (18)] "KMTCFG", 14 (offset 1) near "1":
Label lab_1 has already been declared!
[error 5 (18)] "KMTCFG", 15 (offset 1) near "1":
Label lab_1 has already been declared!
[error 6 (18)] "KMTCFG", 16 (offset 1) near "1":
Label lab_1 has already been declared!
[error 7 (18)] "KMTCFG", 18 (offset 1) near "0":
Label lab_0 has already been declared!
[error 8 (18)] "KMTCFG", 19 (offset 1) near "1":
Label lab_1 has already been declared!
[error 9 (18)] "KMTCFG", 20 (offset 1) near "0":
Label lab_0 has already been declared!
[error 10 (18)] "KMTCFG", 24 (offset 1) near "0":
Label lab_0 has already been declared!
[error 11 (18)] "KMTCFG", 27 (offset 1) near "1":
Label lab_1 has already been declared!
[error 12 (18)] "KMTCFG", 28 (offset 1) near "1":
Label lab_1 has already been declared!
[error 13 (18)] "KMTCFG", 29 (offset 1) near "1":
Label lab_1 has already been declared!
[error 14 (18)] "KMTCFG", 30 (offset 1) near "1":
Label lab_1 has already been declared!

14 errors were found
** Unable to compile source KMTCFG **

CONTACT-SCR1
[error 1 (19)] "CONTACT-SCR1", 160 (offset 1) :
Label GUI_pCONTACTS_pSCR1_pNEW_pCLICK was not declared!
[error 2 (19)] "CONTACT-SCR1", 160 (offset 1) :
Label GUI_pCONTACTS_pSCR1_pCMDOK_pCLICK was not declared!
[error 3 (19)] "CONTACT-SCR1", 160 (offset 1) :
Label GUI_pCONTACTS_pSCR1_pCMDCLOSE_pCLICK was not declared!
[error 4 (19)] "CONTACT-SCR1", 160 (offset 1) :
Label GUI_pCONTACTS_pSCR1_pCMDCANCEL_pCLICK was not declared!
** Unable to compile source CONTACT-SCR1 **

KMTHLP
"KMTHLP", 1 (offset 7) near "Transfer":
File Transfer Action Selection~~Enter: S to send items to the remote ..
^
parse error
"KMTHLP", 11 (offset 9) near "buffer":
Source buffer index~~This performance tuning parameter is used to det ..
^
parse error
"KMTHLP", 31 (offset 11) near "mode":
Transfer mode~~When the transfer mode is set to "Text", attribute mar ..
^
parse error
"KMTHLP", 36 (offset 8) near "Delimiter":
Field Delimiter~~Select either TAB, Comma or CR/LF as the field separ ..
^
parse error
"KMTHLP", 41 (offset 9) near "File":
Source File~~Enter the name of the source (PICK) file which contains ..
^
parse error
"KMTHLP", 70 (offset 7) near "Server":
Host Server Name~~Enter the server name to be used for this host comp ..
^
parse error
"KMTHLP", 80 (offset 9) near "Exit":
Prompt Exit String~~The prompt exit string is an optional setting whi ..
^
parse error

7 errors were found
** Unable to compile source KMTHLP **

For GUIBP
ATGUIBEGINMACRO
Warning: Variable CLIENV is never assigned!
Warning: Variable PARAMS is never assigned!
Source file ATGUIBEGINMACRO compiled successfully
ATGUIENDMACRO
Warning: Variable CLIENV is never assigned!
Warning: Variable PARAMS is never assigned!
Source file ATGUIENDMACRO compiled successfully

For OBJBP
All ok except for
README.TXT

For SUIBP
Seemed to be ok excpt for the terminal definitions

ALL ACATLOGING SEENED OK EXCEPT FOR THE EXPECTE readme ETC

Thnak you DEMO MENU seems to start this time – I will test and comment OK

Kind regards
Chris
CB Soft
M: 07841562498

The install routine tries to figure out what flavor of MVDB is running and customizes the programs to work for that flavor. It looks like something went wrong with that process. The install routines have been around a long time and have been very solid. Maybe something got messed up in the new release and you're specific flavor isn't working. You might need to contact Rocket and have them help.

They'll want all your info, what OS are you using, what flavor of MVDB, etc. From the first screen shot it looks like you're running jbase.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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The install routine tries to figure out what flavor of MVDB is running and customizes the programs to work for that flavor. It looks like something went wrong with that process. The install routines have been around a long time and have been very solid. Maybe something got messed up in the new release and you're specific flavor isn't working. You might need to contact Rocket and have them help.

They'll want all your info, what OS are you using, what flavor of MVDB, etc. From the first screen shot it looks like you're running jbase.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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Hi Joe,

Yes we are running jBase 3.6.9.1

Kind regards
Chris
CB Soft
M: 07841562498

The install routine tries to figure out what flavor of MVDB is running and customizes the programs to work for that flavor. It looks like something went wrong with that process. The install routines have been around a long time and have been very solid. Maybe something got messed up in the new release and you're specific flavor isn't working. You might need to contact Rocket and have them help.

They'll want all your info, what OS are you using, what flavor of MVDB, etc. From the first screen shot it looks like you're running jbase.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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Hi Joe,

Yes we are running jBase 3.6.9.1

Kind regards
Chris
CB Soft
M: 07841562498

The install routine tries to figure out what flavor of MVDB is running and customizes the programs to work for that flavor. It looks like something went wrong with that process. The install routines have been around a long time and have been very solid. Maybe something got messed up in the new release and you're specific flavor isn't working. You might need to contact Rocket and have them help.

They'll want all your info, what OS are you using, what flavor of MVDB, etc. From the first screen shot it looks like you're running jbase.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
------------------------------

Hi Joe,

Some demos are running but others are failing and opting back to the GUI menu

Kind regards
Chris
CB Soft
M: 07841562498

The install routine tries to figure out what flavor of MVDB is running and customizes the programs to work for that flavor. It looks like something went wrong with that process. The install routines have been around a long time and have been very solid. Maybe something got messed up in the new release and you're specific flavor isn't working. You might need to contact Rocket and have them help.

They'll want all your info, what OS are you using, what flavor of MVDB, etc. From the first screen shot it looks like you're running jbase.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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Hi Hoe,

Just did a jdiag and got this

Time : Fri Aug 25 02:53:30 2023

Environment
===========

JBCRELEASEDIR : 'C:\\JBASE30'
JBCGLOBALDIR : 'C:\\jBASE30'
HOME : 'E:\\ACCUTERM'
JEDIFILEPATH : '.;E:\\ACCUTERM'
JEDIFILENAME_MD : 'E:\\ACCUTERM\\MD'
JEDIFILENAME_SYSTEM : 'E:\\SYSTEM'
JBCNOINTERNAL : Not Set
JEDI_NOSHMEM : Not Set
RELEASE Information : Major 3.4 , Minor , Patch 0330
Spooler dir (JBCSPOOLERDIR) : 'C:\\jBASE30\\JSPOOLER'
JBCEMULATE : Not Set
Object path (JBCOBJECTLIST) : 'E:\\ACCUTERM\\LIB;C:\\PROGRAM FILES\\JBITE\\CHARACTER\\
PROGRAMS\\LIB'
VC++ Registry : Version 6; Path C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Visual
Studio\\VC98
Program dir (JBCDEV_BIN) : 'E:\\ACCUTERM\\BIN'
Subroutine dir (JBCDEV_LIB) : 'E:\\ACCUTERM\\LIB'
There are No warnings, jBASE seems to be loaded correctly

jsh ACCUTERM ~ -->jdiag

Kind regards
Chris
CB Soft
M: 07841562498

Hi Chris -

I suspect that some demos are not running because of the jBASE version you are running. We test them on jBASE 5, but don't have access to older versions of jBASE for testing. The fact that the programs did not install correctly is also likely due to the old jBASE release. We try to keep things very generic to avoid platform incompatibilities but some things, like CATALOG, are specifc to particular platforms by their nature.

Thanks, Pete

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Peter Schellenbach
Rocket Internal - All Brands
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Hi Chris -

I suspect that some demos are not running because of the jBASE version you are running. We test them on jBASE 5, but don't have access to older versions of jBASE for testing. The fact that the programs did not install correctly is also likely due to the old jBASE release. We try to keep things very generic to avoid platform incompatibilities but some things, like CATALOG, are specifc to particular platforms by their nature.

Thanks, Pete

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Peter Schellenbach
Rocket Internal - All Brands
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Doesn't Rocket own jbase?

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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Doesn't Rocket own jbase?

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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Never mind. I guess they don't have an older versions running.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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Doesn't Rocket own jbase?

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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Hi Joe,

Yes I believe they do own jBase

Shall I look at your code and see if I can correct the problems.

Kind regards
Chris
CB Soft
M: 07841562498

Never mind. I guess they don't have an older versions running.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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Chris,

It sounds like your best path would be to try and find a newer version of a multi-valued database. Either upgrade jbase or try something else. Does anyone know if Rocket still has a free license to OpenQM? I really hate that their website doesn't show any prices. Just a button for quotes. When I see that from any company I think they're embarrassed about their prices.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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Never mind. I guess they don't have an older versions running.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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Could I send them images of my old CD’s ?

Kind regards
Chris
CB Soft
M: 07841562498

Chris,

It sounds like your best path would be to try and find a newer version of a multi-valued database. Either upgrade jbase or try something else. Does anyone know if Rocket still has a free license to OpenQM? I really hate that their website doesn't show any prices. Just a button for quotes. When I see that from any company I think they're embarrassed about their prices.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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Hi Joe,

Yes I agree, I was directed to a guy called Steve Fuller who is in the OK but he does not seem to want to chat at all, have you heard of him ?

Where are you based ?

Kind regards
Chris
CB Soft
M: 07841562498

Could I send them images of my old CD’s ?

Kind regards
Chris
CB Soft
M: 07841562498

I doubt they'll want to spend the time supporting an old version like that. Think about it, that version has been around for how many years? During that time, no one has even tried to install AccuTerm on it. The market for that old version must be really small. That version of jbase was probably unsupported before it was sold Rocket. I doubt Rocket will put any effort into supporting AccuTerm on it.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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I doubt they'll want to spend the time supporting an old version like that. Think about it, that version has been around for how many years? During that time, no one has even tried to install AccuTerm on it. The market for that old version must be really small. That version of jbase was probably unsupported before it was sold Rocket. I doubt Rocket will put any effort into supporting AccuTerm on it.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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Hi Joe,

True, but I need to understand how much to upgrade and need to know what advantage for us, if any.

AccuTerm 7 worked fine so cant be that far from what they have now can it ?

Kind regards
Chris
CB Soft
M: 07841562498

Hi Joe,

Yes I agree, I was directed to a guy called Steve Fuller who is in the OK but he does not seem to want to chat at all, have you heard of him ?

Where are you based ?

Kind regards
Chris
CB Soft
M: 07841562498

I don't work for Rocket. I'm an independent consultant. I'm in Scottsdale, AZ.

If you still have your old AccuTerm 7 installation program then you could just use that. AccuTerm 8 has some great features like being about to move a tabbed session out of the main screen into it's own window. They also have a web client so users can go to a web page instead of installing AccuTerm on their computer.

Your customer might want those features or not need them at all. You don't need them to get a prototype GUI of their applications. One thing I'm sure of though, if you're customer is going to be investing in upgrading their interface, they should also upgrade to a newer version of jbase.

I don't know Steve Fuller but I'm sure he's lovely.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
------------------------------

I don't work for Rocket. I'm an independent consultant. I'm in Scottsdale, AZ.

If you still have your old AccuTerm 7 installation program then you could just use that. AccuTerm 8 has some great features like being about to move a tabbed session out of the main screen into it's own window. They also have a web client so users can go to a web page instead of installing AccuTerm on their computer.

Your customer might want those features or not need them at all. You don't need them to get a prototype GUI of their applications. One thing I'm sure of though, if you're customer is going to be investing in upgrading their interface, they should also upgrade to a newer version of jbase.

I don't know Steve Fuller but I'm sure he's lovely.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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What is openQM. Should I look into that ?

Kind regards
Chris Baxter
CB Soft.

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Joe Goldthwaite

I don't work for Rocket. I'm an independent consultant. I'm in Scottsdale, AZ.

If you still have your old AccuTerm 7 installation program then you could just use that. AccuTerm 8 has some great features like being about to move a tabbed session out of the main screen into it's own window. They also have a web client so users can go to a web page instead of installing AccuTerm on their computer.

Your customer might want those features or not need them at all. You don't need them to get a prototype GUI of their applications. One thing I'm sure of though, if you're customer is going to be investing in upgrading their interface, they should also upgrade to a newer version of jbase.

I don't know Steve Fuller but I'm sure he's lovely.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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OpenQM was a version that was free but you could pay for support. I don't know if there's a free version anymore so I honestly can't say if it would be a good option. I'm sure someone who is more familiar with the different options will chime in with better info.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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What is openQM. Should I look into that ?

Kind regards
Chris Baxter
CB Soft.

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Joe Goldthwaite

I don't work for Rocket. I'm an independent consultant. I'm in Scottsdale, AZ.

If you still have your old AccuTerm 7 installation program then you could just use that. AccuTerm 8 has some great features like being about to move a tabbed session out of the main screen into it's own window. They also have a web client so users can go to a web page instead of installing AccuTerm on their computer.

Your customer might want those features or not need them at all. You don't need them to get a prototype GUI of their applications. One thing I'm sure of though, if you're customer is going to be investing in upgrading their interface, they should also upgrade to a newer version of jbase.

I don't know Steve Fuller but I'm sure he's lovely.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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Hi Chris,

OpenQM is a database that is functionally similar to the U2 products. There are features in OpenQM that are not in U2 and vice-versa.

Rocket now own OpenQM. You used to be able to freely download the executables and install the personal version without any interaction with the company, but that is no longer the case ... but you can still get the downloads from Wayback Machine (try May 2023). Essentially, you just go through the normal install process then enter "PERSONAL" as the licence number.

There was also a GPL version from circa 2006. It is still out there on the internet, but it really needs a 32-bit O/S to run on (and the code needs to be patched for modern authentication systems).

Download "Getting Started in OpenQM - Part 1" to get some assistance with downloading, setup, and basic usage.

Cheers,

Brian

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Brian Speirs
Senior Analyst - Information Systems
Rush Flat Ltd
Wellington NZ
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Hi Joe,

Yes I believe they do own jBase

Shall I look at your code and see if I can correct the problems.

Kind regards
Chris
CB Soft
M: 07841562498

Hi Joe, After searching my backups I have found the original Accuterm 7 install pack and having removed 8, re installed Accuterm from scratch etc. - all the Demo programs work fine and the screen I created works. so I can continue to develop and encourage the customer to upgrade jBase etc.

If that is now acceptable - do we know if there are still Accuterm 7 license available ?

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Chris BAXTER
MD
CB Soft
IPSWICH GB
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Hi Joe, After searching my backups I have found the original Accuterm 7 install pack and having removed 8, re installed Accuterm from scratch etc. - all the Demo programs work fine and the screen I created works. so I can continue to develop and encourage the customer to upgrade jBase etc.

If that is now acceptable - do we know if there are still Accuterm 7 license available ?

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Chris BAXTER
MD
CB Soft
IPSWICH GB
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I don't know if they still sell licenses for AccuTerm 7 or what the prices are for the new release. I do think that if you're trying to use AccuTerm 7 so that you can run an older unsupported version of jBase, it's not a good idea. Just my opinion.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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I don't know if they still sell licenses for AccuTerm 7 or what the prices are for the new release. I do think that if you're trying to use AccuTerm 7 so that you can run an older unsupported version of jBase, it's not a good idea. Just my opinion.

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Joe Goldthwaite
Consultant
Phoenix AZ US
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Joe - I totally understand, just trying to do my job as a consultant fairly and present all options but how do you get the prices etc, even for the current versions, let alone the steps needed to get there

No one seems to be bothered

Kind regards
Chris
CB Soft
M: 07841562498

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