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converting unidata to universe

  • March 20, 2026
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Greg Bino

i will have to upgrade a universe server and a unidata server in the coming year. i thought why are we running both. when i upgrade the unidata server should i convert it to universe. is it more work than doing the upgrade itself. if so how much more work.

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John Jenkins
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  • March 20, 2026

Greg,

That’s a qustion that begs a whole volume of other questions. Unfortunately the only answer I can offer is “it depends” and the general advice “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it”.

If you want to consolidate be aware that there may well be additional license costs for UniVerse and if you use any additional 3rd-party software there may be additional costs involved.

Unfortunately - while you COULD do this, whether you SHOULD do this - and whether any costs involved - need hands-on knowledge beyond the scope of this community forum..

 

Rrgards

JJ


Doug Averch
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I cannot tell you how many times I have converted from Unidata to Universe or Universe to Unidata. If you have PROC’s it will be messy. If you have Pick Style dictionaries it will be messy. The compilers have a few differences depending on if you are using INFORMATION option or something else. Depending on how much code and dictionaries you have it takes about a week or two to verify it.

Since I use a EclipseIDE tools I can copy from Universe to Unidata or the other way without thinking. This allows me to do this very seamlessly. 

Good Luck


Greg Bino
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  • March 22, 2026

gentlemen thanks for your response. john how are you. it has been a while since you helped me.

with rocket’s new EOVL policy it has forced us to quit kicking the can down the road. because i have upgrade experience with universe, i have been asked to do the same with our unidata office. after speaking with them about implementing MVIS, the conversation of the upgrades came up. it became apparent that the programmers working in unidata had universe experience and that they all preferred working in universe. i thought ok, we are going to have to do an upgrade, why not give the guys what they prefer.  

however , john i had not considered your 3rd party licenses point. And i dont’s know if i should undertake this if changing to universe creates a significantly more work.

doug would you be able to share any check lists you used when testing. identifying the issues before encountering them is easier on the mental state than encountering surprises along the way.

thank you guys appreciate your input.