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System Builder 5.1 on Linux (Not SB+)

  • April 17, 2025
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Rashid Hoosen

Hi,

Is anybody aware or know if System Builder 5.1 (pre SB+ I know it's ancient) was ported for a Linux platform (for Unidata)?

Thanks.



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    Manu Fernandes
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    Hi,

    Is anybody aware or know if System Builder 5.1 (pre SB+ I know it's ancient) was ported for a Linux platform (for Unidata)?

    Thanks.



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    Rashid Hoosen
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    Investec Bank Limited
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    Hi

    SB is a library of basics, no reason it didn't work while you are at the UDT level.

    For the os level calls ! You can always redefine the non linux one.

    My point of view.
    Manu Fernandes




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    • April 17, 2025

    Hi,

    Is anybody aware or know if System Builder 5.1 (pre SB+ I know it's ancient) was ported for a Linux platform (for Unidata)?

    Thanks.



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    Rashid Hoosen
    Developer
    Investec Bank Limited
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    I haven't tried SB, but I have been using AccuTerm quite successfully for several years now.  It runs under wine, and everything seems to work perfectly.  I'd love to hear about your experience trying SB under wine.

    Also, I've been using VirtualBox, too, and it's fantastic.  For example, I've got and ancient version of CUBS/TCS running on jBase4 on Windows XP in VirtualBox on my Linux Mate machines.

    So there are at least two options available to you.



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    Rashid Hoosen
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    Hi

    SB is a library of basics, no reason it didn't work while you are at the UDT level.

    For the os level calls ! You can always redefine the non linux one.

    My point of view.
    Manu Fernandes




    Hi Manu,

    SB is object code, I think that it has to be recompiled on a Unidata version running on Linux.

    We have an application running on a Unidata Solaris platform, and with Solaris end of life around 2035 and no further Unidata versions on the Solaris platform, we are looking to port our application to a Linux platform for the short term.

    The long term goal is to rewrite the front end.

    Regards,



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    Manu Fernandes
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    Hi Manu,

    SB is object code, I think that it has to be recompiled on a Unidata version running on Linux.

    We have an application running on a Unidata Solaris platform, and with Solaris end of life around 2035 and no further Unidata versions on the Solaris platform, we are looking to port our application to a Linux platform for the short term.

    The long term goal is to rewrite the front end.

    Regards,



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    Rashid Hoosen
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    Investec Bank Limited
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    Hi

    Yes you didn't have the source of SB only the object code, known as 'pcode' (pseudo code).

    But in my understanding and experience, pcode is produced by unibasic compiler and are not 'linked' to the os binaires.

    If you run one unidata windows and one linux you can copy pcode item between them without re'basic'.

    Try it and let me known.
    Regards
    Manu


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    Hi Manu,

    SB is object code, I think that it has to be recompiled on a Unidata version running on Linux.

    We have an application running on a Unidata Solaris platform, and with Solaris end of life around 2035 and no further Unidata versions on the Solaris platform, we are looking to port our application to a Linux platform for the short term.

    The long term goal is to rewrite the front end.

    Regards,


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    Hi Manu,

    SB is object code, I think that it has to be recompiled on a Unidata version running on Linux.

    We have an application running on a Unidata Solaris platform, and with Solaris end of life around 2035 and no further Unidata versions on the Solaris platform, we are looking to port our application to a Linux platform for the short term.

    The long term goal is to rewrite the front end.

    Regards,



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    Rashid Hoosen
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    Hi

    I found these document about platefroms and compatibility.

    https://rbc.rocketsoftware.com/platform_support.htm

    Binary Compatibility
    The U2 Binary Compatibility statement covers U2 Programs which are ported at the Operating System (O/S) level.

    This excludes SB+ Server, which is ported at the U2 data server version level.

    Manu


    John Jenkins
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    Hi,

    Is anybody aware or know if System Builder 5.1 (pre SB+ I know it's ancient) was ported for a Linux platform (for Unidata)?

    Thanks.



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    Rashid Hoosen
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    Rashid,

    There may be O/S level dependencies, but beyond that SB_ is mostly BASIC compiled programs. If moving from a big-endian system (e,g, AIX) to a low-endian system such as Windows or Linux - or vice-versa - see the UniData O/S level commands:

    • convcode converts UniBasic compiled programs.
    • convdata converts UniData hashed files.
    • convidx converts index files.

    I'd also recommend testing thoroughly.

    Regards

    JJ

     



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    Kevin Drury001
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    • April 18, 2025

    Hi,

    Is anybody aware or know if System Builder 5.1 (pre SB+ I know it's ancient) was ported for a Linux platform (for Unidata)?

    Thanks.



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    Rashid Hoosen
    Developer
    Investec Bank Limited
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    It was not ported to a Linux platform.

    Thanks

    Kevin.



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    Ian McGowan
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    • April 18, 2025

    Hi Manu,

    SB is object code, I think that it has to be recompiled on a Unidata version running on Linux.

    We have an application running on a Unidata Solaris platform, and with Solaris end of life around 2035 and no further Unidata versions on the Solaris platform, we are looking to port our application to a Linux platform for the short term.

    The long term goal is to rewrite the front end.

    Regards,



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    Rashid Hoosen
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    Investec Bank Limited
    Sandton ZA
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    If you move object code from Windows/Linux to AIX/Solaris/HPUX etc. or vice versa, you can run "convcode" to fix the object code, in the same way you use "convdata" or "convidx".  When doing this frequently, I'd just run a script to do all three to directories moved between machines:

    #/usr/bin/ksh
    if [[ "x"$1 = "x" ]]
    then
      echo "usage: chil ACCOUNTNAME"
      exit 1
    fi
     
    echo "fix permissions, ownership and endian-ness for account: $1"
     
    cd /info
     
    if [[ ! -d $1 ]]
    then
      echo "$1 is not a directory"
      exit 1
    fi
     
    if [[ ! -f $1/VOC ]]
    then
      echo "$1 is not an Infolease account"
      exit 1
    fi
     
    chmod -R 775 $1
    chown -R dsiroot.info $1
     
    # Add /usr/udXX/bin to path for the following
    convdata -r $1
    convidx -rs $1
    convcode $1


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    Rashid Hoosen
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    • April 22, 2025

    Hi,

    Is anybody aware or know if System Builder 5.1 (pre SB+ I know it's ancient) was ported for a Linux platform (for Unidata)?

    Thanks.



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    Rashid Hoosen
    Developer
    Investec Bank Limited
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    Thanks everyone, I'll explore all your suggestions.



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